Confessions of a Bikini Pro Podcast

ANGELINE JEANSON; Perfecting Posing Routines, From Debilitating Car Accident to Engineer and Bikini Pro, Systemize for Success, and Are You Ready to Go Pro?

1/29/2021

Today we hear from Angeline Jeanson. She is a mechanical engineer and posing coach for Team Atlas, and former dancer who came back from a terrible car accident to become an IFBB pro.

Celeste begins by asking Angeline about her pre-show rituals when she was still completing. Angeline explains she would listen to the same song during prep and it would calm her on show day. She would also do this before she stepped on stage as a dancer.

Because most people know Angeline as a top posing coach, Celeste asks about her backstory and what led her to bodybuilding. Angeline describes a car accident she had as an 18-year-old that required her to re-learn to walk. Her physical therapist told her she needed to begin weight training to aid her recovery. She had always been in shape because of dancing, and after two years of training, a friend suggested she compete. She had a terrible experience at her first show.

She knew nothing of posing or proper make up, but she loved being on stage. In her second show, she placed first and soon went to her first national show, placed first. In Canada, one needs to win the overall to win a pro card, and she finally did that in 2017. After 6 years of competing on the world stage, she is retired. Because she coaches some of the top IFBB pros, she does not feel it is right to compete against them.

Celeste asks Angeline what she thinks of how the bikini division has changed over time and where it will go in the future. When Angeline first started competing, the standards were not very strict. She likes that there are clear expectations now because it gives her competitors a standard to work towards.

With 15 years as a dancer, she carries that experience into the way she coaches posing, using steps and counts to build routines. Each detail is calculated to the second, just like dance choreography. This is what sets her apart from other posing coaches. She is consistently trying to push posing to another level. Angeline spends hours creating routines for each athlete and does not look at what others are doing. She is not influenced by what others are doing. Angeline does not post her athletes’ routines before they hit the stage because they have been copied in the past. She records everything to study and change as needed.

Celeste asks Angeline if she has any pet peeves that come up when she is watching other competitors pose. Angeline says she has a list! She points out that amateurs waste a lot of their 15 seconds on stage with hair flips and arm movements when they should be focusing on showcasing their physiques. Angeline doesn’t have a preference in working with newbies or pros, but she wants to work with athletes that bring good attitudes and leave their ego out of the process. Angeline finds the criteria for posing is always the same but what helps an amateur go pro is when they show up to a show already presenting as a pro.

Angeline shares her trick to choosing the right suit, makeup , and general look for the stage. She says to look at the previous season’s Olympia top 5 to set the criteria for the upcoming season. It’s that simple. If the top 5 Olympians are wearing blues and purples, why would you show up with a red suit? The type of posing they do is what you should bring to your next show.

Angeline explains that she only works with members of Team Atlas because of the shared mentality with the other coaches, James and Jennifer. She chooses every detail, from suit to hair, so each competitor presents their best. When she worked with other coaches, they did not always see eye to eye. Angeline speaks generally to stretching and how it is specific to each girl. She recommends working with a physical therapist or a massage therapist to see where your deficiencies in movement may be.

Celeste shares a listener question about how to be as comfortable on stage as one is at home practicing. Angeline says the competitor needs to ask herself why she doesn’t feel comfortable on stage. Is it because they are super shy, they did not practice enough? You can’t solve the problem until you know what is causing it. Angeline stresses the importance of practicing like you are on stage to build comfort and confidence. Angeline explains that she has always strived to be the best at what she does and that naturally carried over to posing. She even calls herself “annoying” to the point where she purchased all the posing shoes she could to tell her clients what to buy and not to buy.

Angeline begins to talk about her background as a mechanical engineer. When she was visiting universities, she had three professional choices; doctor, lawyer, or engineer. She decided on engineering because she loves problem solving and wants to know “everything about everything”. She has been working on business aircrafts for the past seven years and she really loves her profession. Angeline speaks to how she has considered transitioning full time to being a posing coach. During the COVID quarantine, her business shut down and she realized how much she missed it. Because she worked so hard to earn her degree, she feels leaving the profession would almost feel like a failure.

Because she has two demanding professions, Angeline finds success through structure. She wakes up early and keeps a strict schedule to stay organized. She does not waste a minute. She also uses alarms to help her stay on track. When she was competing, her boss was also supportive and understanding of her unique needs. Now that she isn’t competing, she rarely trains and doesn’t diet. Now she just enjoys food. When she wasn’t competing, she never rebounded and maintained her physique. Now she just trains for fun and to relax. But because she coaches so many posing clients, that also counts as training.

Celeste shares a listener question regarding being a female in a predominantly male field. Angeline says her personality lends itself to working in the field of engineering and has rarely had issues.

Angeline shares her advice for competitors in various stages of their journeys. For new competitors, she recommends to choose their first team wisely as to not waste time and money on their journey. Having a good coach and team will set you up for a favorable experience and help maintain your health. For competitors on their way to pro, she recommends not competing until you look ready. Analyze your posing and your physique and take your time. Aim for what the successful pros look like. Define what you want and work towards it.

CONNECT WITH ANGELINE:
www.instagram.com/angelinejeanson/
linktr.ee/PosingbyA

CONNECT WITH CELESTE:
www.celestial.fit
www.instagram.com/celestial_fit/

Time Stamps:

[1:20] Celeste introduces Angeline.

[1:36] Angeline talks about her pre-show ritual.

[3:50] Celeste asks Angeline to speak about her path to becoming a competitor.

[9:00] Angeline explains why she is not competing now.

[9:53] Celeste asks Angeline what she thinks of how the bikini division has changed over time.

[12:10] Angeline talks about how her dance background has influenced her posing.

[14:40] Celeste ask how she creates unique routines for her athletes without pushing the
envelope too far.

[17:50] Angeline talks about how she keeps track of all the routines.

[19:34] Celeste asks about Angeline’s posing pet peeves.

[22:08] Angeline describes the type of athletes she prefers to work with.

[24:25] Celeste asks Angeline if she notices differences in judges’ preferences in posing.

[26:38] Angeline gives advice for how to pick your “look”.

[28:42] Angeline explains why she only works with competitors on Team Atlas.

[31:59] Celeste shares a listener question regarding stretching.

[33:17] Celeste shares a listener question about being comfortable on stage.

[36:56] Angeline talks about her dedication to posing.

[38:50] The conversation transitions into Angeline’s experience as a mechanical engineer.

[44:14] Angeline talks about balancing her two careers.

[48:15] Celeste asks how her life has shifted since she stopped competing.

[52:28] Angeline talks about working in a predominately male field.

[55:04] Celeste asks Angeline for advice for different competitors.

[61:04] Celeste wraps up the conversation.

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COACHES' SERIES; TEAM ATLAS-James Ayotte, Jennifer Dorie, & Angeline Jeanson

1/6/2021

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Host Celeste Rains-Turk sits down with members of Team Atlas, including James Ayotte, Angeline Jeanson, and Jennifer Dorie. James started coaching in 2016 and has made 21 IFBB pros in the past 2 years. He currently has 2 of the Top 5 bikini Olympians & had 4 bikini Olympians in 2020. Angeline is the head posing coach and builds their athletes' complete look. She is an IFBB bikini pro and a mechanical engineer. Jennifer has a degree in Kinesiology, and placed 2nd at the prestigious 2020 Olympia.

The conversation begins with James discussing the detailed philosophy of Team Atlas and what sets them apart. James says that each detail is cared for, from bracelets to suit color. The most important thing is the quality of the athletes produced. Each athlete gets individual service, no one is just a number.

Celeste asks James to discuss how they manage having so many athletes. Many tasks are delegated to Jen and Angeline, such as administrative tasks, as well as getting multiple points of view from Jen and Angeline. James credits organization for their success.

They never procrastinate. Jen says they all thrive off of being productive and enjoying what they do. Angeline talks about the most important things the athletes need to focus on in each posing session. She coaches technique first then works on the details. She selects every detail about their look, including suit connectors, cut and color. James expands on suit selection and its importance and how it’s so difficult to get the perfect cut and color.

Regarding what sets apart a good athlete from a champion athlete, James starts with a bad athlete as someone who doesn’t have great genetics and doesn’t follow the plan. A good athlete begins with someone who follows protocol and makes corrections and listens to feedback. A great athlete is someone who cares deeply about their progress. Jen agrees that being coachable is important. The athlete has to take ego out of the process.

James says the best athlete can put their egos aside. Angelina says she agrees with the ego element. She wants each athlete to look their best on stage and sometimes sees athletes unwilling to listen to her advice and they get limited by their egos. James says he, Jen, and Angelina are all very different and all the same. They have different approaches but are all detailed and organized.

James talks about the fine balance between pushing an athlete and prep while keeping them as healthy as possible. He admits that prepping is not the healthiest thing. Bodybuilding is an extreme sport and requires an athlete to experience hunger. He would never do anything extreme to get an athlete on stage.

He would say no and recommend a later show. He hates short prep because it doesn’t allow for time to practice posing, also. Jen says sometimes clients have unrealistic expectations and she has to be honest with the athlete that they will not be healthy and show ready. Extreme preps also make the rebound much harder.

Celeste asks James for his thoughts on the claims that politics play a role in judging outcomes. He and Jen both say it’s ridiculous and a cop-out. There are no free wins, they are all earned in the IFBB. The judges want the best athlete to win on show day. There is a panel of judges as an insurance to keep fair judging.

James brings up the point that Instagram photos look different than stage comparison photos, which can show more detail. Angelina says that the overall look matters in judging and can take away from a great physique. Fifty percent of the battle is your presentation and posing. If you’re going to make a choice, like an unusual hair cut or suit color, everything else has to be on point.

Celeste asks Angeline what they would do if they had an athlete whose physique is on point but their posing is lacking. Would they still put them on stage? Angeline is honest with the athlete how their posing will hinder them. She says it’s on them if they decide to ignore their posing practice and still get on stage.

Celeste asks James what he would want someone to know before they commit to competing. James says they are very passionate about their jobs and wants their athletes to have the best experience. They aren’t driven by the money, they have passion for their athletes. Jen says if you aren’t willing to give 100%, then Team Atlas isn’t for you. They expect a lot and have high standards. They have never declined an athlete because of genetics, only because of work ethic and mindset.

Next, the team discusses how they would handle an athlete who doesn’t feel ready but is physically ready. They would encourage them to stop looking in the mirror! Send check-ins and listen to the coaches. If James isn’t worried, the athlete shouldn’t be worried.

James likes to have athletes ready ahead of time so they can cruise into the show and have a more refreshed body. If an athlete isn’t going to be ready but still wants to compete at a specific show, she asks what their goals are for the show. If it’s just a matter of having fun and bringing their best, then she thinks it’s fine they still choose that show. They would never tell an athlete they are capable of something they aren’t. They want their athletes to have realistic goals.

Celeste asks their approach to an athlete that has a bad post-show rebound. James explains how the metabolism is affected at the end of prep and how a reverse is necessary to bring it back to a higher rate. He says reverse is harder than prep because the show is over but they still need to stay on track.

For the last hypothetical question, Celeste asks if an athlete that is one year into competing and wants to turn pro, why would they hire Team Atlas? James says he would actually encourage the athlete to stick with their current coach if they are doing well. Jen says if this happens, usually there is an issue. If you’re happy where you are, then don’t shop around. But if you have to chase your coach for check ins, then you should inquire about a new coach.

Celeste begins the rapid fire questions with seven questions and each coach gives short answers. To see all questions asked in the coach series you can visit the main blog breaking it down

After finishing the rapid fire questions, Celeste asks where the egg term came from. James says it was something silly that came from another client referring to himself as an egg when he had to shave his head and beard for a show.

Celeste wraps up by thanking Team Atlas for joining her on the podcast.

WAYS TO CONNECT:

CONNECT WITH TEAM ATLAS:
IG: https://www.instagram.com/teamatlasmtl/
WEBSITE: WWW.TEAMATLASMTL.COM

CONNECT WITH JAMES:
MIND LEADER IG: https://www.instagram.com/mindleader/
MIND LEADER YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3RId73Xm0CHY6v1cycCMfA

CONNECT WITH JEN DORIE:
IG: https://www.instagram.com/jenniferdorie_ifbbpro/
YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiQs8mwt1BfGc6bREoPxBkg

CONNECT WITH ANGELINE:
IG: https://www.instagram.com/angelinejeanson/
ALL LINKS: https://linktr.ee/PosingbyA

CONNECT WITH CELESTE: https://www.instagram.com/celestial_fit/

SIGN UP FOR THE FREE FOOD RELATIONSHIP COACHING SERIES: https://celeste-rainsturk.clickfunnels.com/free-food-relationship-mentorship
Get Access to the Free Post-Show Blues Coaching Series: https://celeste-rainsturk.clickfunnels.com/free-7day-post-show-personal-development-coaching-series

EPISODE TIME STAMPS:

[1:00] Celeste introduces Team Atlas

[2:10] James talks about his coaching philosophy.

[3:19] Celeste asks how they manage having so many athletes.

[6:40] Angeline talks about their approach to posing.

[8:53] James expands on suit selection and its importance.

[10:00] The group talks about what sets apart a good athlete from a great athlete.

[21:10] Celeste asks how they determine how far to push an athlete.

[26:20] James talks about the claim of politics in judging.

[31:33] Celeste asks the group some hypothetical questions.

[36:04] The team talks to how they would handle an athlete who doesn’t feel ready but is physically ready.

[41:53] Celeste asks their approach to an athlete that has a bad post-show rebound.

[46:00] Celeste asks about a hypothetical scenario regarding coach selection.

[49:16] Rapid fire questions begin.

[63:43] Celeste asks about the origin of the egg term.

[65:40] Celeste wraps up the conversation thanking James, Jen, and Angeline for joining her.

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ANGELINE JEANSON; Perfecting Posing Routines, From Debilitating Car Accident to Engineer and Bikini Pro, Systemize for Success, and Are You Ready to Go Pro?

COACHES' SERIES; TEAM ATLAS-James Ayotte, Jennifer Dorie, & Angeline Jeanson

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