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In this episode, Celeste Rains-Turk speaks with Katie Kerner, previously known as Katie Miller, a personal trainer who specializes in 8 week online programs and who has been competing for 7 years.

Tune in to hear how Katie stuck it out for 13 national shows before earning her pro card, how she changed her relationship with food, the way she views progress in off season, how she stays only 7 pounds above stage weight using flexible dieting, and how growing her following on Instagram led to the expansion of her online business.

To Connect with Katie you can Follow her on Instagram or visit her website.

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